First UK Liver Transplant Histopathology Meeting
9th December 2008
St Thomas’s Hospital, London
Eleven pathologists including at least one from each of the eight transplant centres was able to attend the meeting. The first half of the meeting was a round table discussion, and the second half a multi-header discussion of previously circulated slides.
1-2pm – meet with sandwich lunch,
2pm: Providing the service: -
Round table – each centre – how do we do it?
- who are the pathologists?
- why biopsy? – time 0, protocol,
Just for diagnosis of clinical/biochemical abnormality
- when? - arrangements for out of hours cover
- post transplant biopsies
- donor frozen sections
Introduction and discussion of service provision, summarised in the table below.:
names in italics = pathologists at this meeting:
|
Pathologists and emails |
Protocol biopsies |
Out-of-hours – frozen section and Tx biopsy |
Birmingham |
Stefan Hubscher Desley Neil Rachel Brown |
Post-reperfusion Hep C yearly Others – about 1,3,5 & 10 years |
No on-call rota Switchboard has consultant numbers. F/S donor lesion – usually done early morning. No technical rota out of hours |
Edinburgh |
Chris Bellamy David Harrison |
Hep C yearly No other protocol Bxs Prev Time 0, not now |
Share 1 in 2, occasional gaps Rapid 1 hour processing and formal technical rota funded. Renal&liver Tx cover relatively frequent Bx ½ weekends, donor lesion F/S about 1/month |
King’s |
Bernard Portmann Alberto Quaglia Alex Knisely |
Post-reperfusion One year (all patients?) Children 10 years |
1 in 3 24 hour on call, often used for donor F/S no technical support – cut their own F/S. No out of hours Tx biopsy – Friday afternoon or Monday morning |
Dublin |
Niamh Nolan Susan Kennedy Ciaran Sheehan Tom Crotty |
Time 0 – all patients No other protocol Bxs |
1 in 4 on call for all histology- most Saturdays, some Sundays, F/S about 1/month. Informal technical staff rota. Different payment arrangements in Ireland |
Royal Free |
Paul Dhillon Frederica Grillo Jennifer Watkins |
Time 0 – about 50% Before discharge (?%) Hep C yearly |
1/7 rota for donor lesions F/S with formal technician on call |
Leeds |
Judy Wyatt Darren Treanor Olorunda Rotimi |
Hep C yearly Children at 5 years |
Tx Bx 1 in 3 rota, mainly Sat mornings, possible other times F/S donor lesions 1/10 rota Formal technician on call |
Newcastle |
Alastair Burt Beatte Haugk Alan Patterson |
Time 0 nearly all No other protocol Bxs |
1 in 7 in group that covers liver/heart/lung, formal on call for donor lesion F/S. Tx biopsies – not weekend but do bank holidays |
Cambridge |
Susan Davies Rebecca Brais ?Satina Theroux? |
Time 0 – all patients Hep C 6 months then annually |
Donor lesion F/s all pathologists take part in rota, guide management, not definitive diagnosis. Separate liver Tx biopsy rota, shared by 3. |
6/8 do time 0 biopsies (Edinburgh recently stopped)
5/8 do hep C annual biopsies
Other general discussion about service delivery:
Out of hours is a requirement for transplant programme/commissioning (PD, SD)
Potential use of Aperio in future for covering service for another centre, second opinion on Tx Bx etc.
Donor frozen section for fat – no evidence on a threshold for what is ‘too fatty’ for cadaveric grafts. Estimates refer to macrovesicular steatosis, not microvesicular (= small droplets rather than ‘invisible’ fat) which accumulates during preservation (DN). Impression that histology is used to justify a decision already taken not to use a graft. Can use a graticule or set of images to standardise assessment of fat (CB, figure attached).
Circulated cases – get scanned and ask for commentaries +/- photo of relevant special stains
Collated responses attached.
Review of afternoon meeting:
Agreed that this was valuable and should be continued on a yearly basis, linked to the UK & Ireland liver transplant meeting, which rotates around the country.
The local pathologists will be the local organisers.
Slide circulation will preceed meeting – sent out 3 weeks in advance, organised through EQA support team
One case per centre, possibility of following a theme in future meetings
Digital images also available – include special stains in future.
Multi-header discussion valuable, preferred to microscope slide projection, powerpoint images acceptable failing either of the others. Will need to book large enough multiheader early to ensure availability.
Potential for including pathology in the main meeting next day – at discretion of local organisers.
JIW
18/12.08
FIRST NAME SURNAME AGE NAME OF SCHOOL CHURCH
FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH A SYNOPSIS OF ISSUES
MATLAB PROGRAM FILE ODE02M THE FIRST
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